Re: [Circle] About my flame -- sorry to all: end of thread

From: Franco (
Date: 08/18/96

        What I would like to know is who made you the king of this group? 
The person posting the previous message has every right to do so, whether
it be code, requests, advertisements, or ANYTHING relating to a circlemud.
It is not your place to lay down the law, nor is it ANYONES. Your lame 
responses and replys to the list just sink you down to my level, and I'm
at the lowest level there is.
        Your reply-spew resembles a young, immature imp who thinks he/she is
the tyrannt of the universe because they can run a boring stock mud. I'm willing
to bet this "zombie mud" has far more detail and complexity to it, along with
a larger player base, than your mud.
        If this guy simply wants to flame circlemud, he CAN DO IT here.

At 05:25 PM 8/18/96 -0400, you wrote:
>I'll apologize in advance for CCing the list.  However, this seems to be 
>a prevalent attitude, at least among some of the more vocal members of 
>the mailing list, and since we've had debates about this in the past, it 
>would be nice if we decided firmly on whether or not this should be allowed.
>On Sat, 17 Aug 1996, Thomas G. Dailey wrote:
>> I apologize for cc-ing the list on that reply about "Coders needed for
>> 3.0".  Some of you have emailed me asking me not to do this and it will
>> never happen again.
>Well, I just didn't read it, but thanks for saving me the keystrokes in 
>the future.
>> But as far as searching for a coder, I will do that again on this list if
>> I need.  There are a lot of people on this list who do not run a mud but
>> would like to in the future join one.  I had over 5 responses from my
>> first post, therefore confirming this.  
>Wow...  5 out of - how many, Alex? - 400?  This list isn't for 
>advertising new MUDs, new positions, or anything of the sort.  It's for 
>CircleMUD development questions.  If you have a question about getting 
>something to work under CircleMUD, you're welcome to ask here.  However, 
>I don't feel that requests for coders are really appropriate here unless 
>mentioned in a .sig or something like that.   (i.e., the main point of 
>the message is to ask a programming question.)
>> Also, I would, and so would anyone
>> else, rather have someone who is familiar to circle code.  Would you
>> expect me to post on rgmd or merc mailing list?
>No.  But you should be able to post to or whatever if 
>you're looking for a coder.  Most people who WANT to be coders will also 
>check out the appropriate newsgroups, and you're more likely to get an 
>enthusiastic reply there.  Here, most people are either associated with a 
>MUD already or don't want to be.
>You raise a good point, though.  Posting to the Merc mailing list would 
>be inappropriate because your message wouldn't deal with Merc MUDs.  
>Likewise, posting to this group and requesting coders is inappropriate 
>because your message doesn't deal with coding CircleMUDs.  One thing I 
>like about the Debian Linux mailing lists is that there's a "debian-user" 
>list and a "debian-devel" list.  People who have installation or 
>newbie-style questions about Debian, such as where to get it and what the 
>latest version is, send their messages to debian-user.  Anyone interested 
>in developing Debian write to debian-devel.  Violations of etiquette on 
>either list are severely punished (well, you're thrown off the list, at 
>least).  While I'm not sure that such a dictatorial approach is ideal, it 
>certainly seems to work.
>We need some kind of a mission statement for this list.  I'm pretty sure 
>I've been through the FAQ at least once within the past month and I don't 
>remember seeing anything of the kind.  Are we going to tolerate 
>advertisements?  Are we going to limit them to just coding-related 
>advertisements?  Or are we going to allow only programming questions to 
>come through the list?  If so, would questions about getting ports to 
>work be deemed appropriate (I refer specifically to the barrage of 
>"I-can't-get-Win95-Circle-to-run" posts that come along periodically - 
>usually generated when the user doesn't realize that he has to buy a 
>compiler before compiling anything)?
>> Anyways,  I am sorry for that flame and please let's end this thread.
>Well, not the one I just started, at least not until it's answered.
>Barid Bel Medar                     
>Knights of the Cosmos            Shayol Ghul Resort and Health Spa
>"I  am  returning  this otherwise good typing paper to you because
>someone has printed gibberish all over it and  put  your  name  at
>the top." - English Professor, Ohio University
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