Re: Re: [Circle] MY .02

From: BlackWind (BlackWind@multiplex.com)
Date: 11/05/96


Scott AJ wrote:
> 
> RAH! you tell on boy!
>  He does have a point though - people like 'ol blackwind and I cant be
> bothered to take a few months (yes no-one in the world could learn it in a
> day alas) learning it before w start coding - we wanna get stuck in and
> see results. We will then begin to learn C and when in 6 months time
> someone like us comes along asking for some trivial help WE WILL tell them
> what to do - because we appreciate what there going through.
>  Also there is no point having a newbie mailing list because erm, who'll
> answer the questions?
> 

This is exacly my point....The best way to learn is through trial and
error.

	This has been my two cents :),
				Blackwind
> >
> > Ok, here's the thing.  My opinion is that only a self concited,
> > wanna-be programmer would bitch me out like that for asking for such
> > SIMPLE help (By the way, you might wanna know I got fed up with the bull
> > shit, and put in the mourge code on my own).  Even if you people do know
> > C as well as you say you do, you have spent all of your time reading
> > books, and understanding it, and testing it, and shit like that.  'I'
> > don't devote my life to learning C.  I could learn it in 1 day if I
> > wanted to, but I don't, I'll take it in stride and learn it slowly.  But
> > I think the amount I know is pretty fucking good for a 15 year old.
> > I've spent VERY much time on my mud, and plan on spending YEARS more to
> > make it the best mud around.  NONE of the patches, and code snipets I
> > got remained the same, I've added to all of them, or changed them in
> > some way to make them better.  I've added plenty of my own stuff,
> > including mourge, now.  I've made my own alias/poofin save code, I've
> > added a few unique spec_procs (special procedures) for mobs, instead of
> > takeing the time to patch in mobprog.  And I could go on and on with
> > what I've done.
> >
> >       The point I'm trying to get across is that not all people have the time
> > or patience to learn C code, or to run a mud.  I happen to have both,
> > and I've been looked at the wrong way by someone that THINKS they know
> > who everyone is by how they ask for help.  I admit, I'm not a really
> > good programmer when it comes to C, but I am good enought to figure
> > stuff out, yet not good enough to do it quick.  What takes most coders
> > about 5 minutes, takes me 30.  There ARE people that run muds, that know
> > NOTHING of C, and get people to code for them.  They get they're muds
> > running just fine.  So don't automatically bitch at people for asking
> > for your help, I don't know where you people read about subscribeing
> > here, but where 'I' read, it said that this is a place to get help with
> > your mud, and contribute to other's muds.  I came here for both.  When
> > my mud is complete I will contribute what I feel I can let public.  But
> > for now, I'm here only for help, and I'll help out with simple C
> > questions, and errors, and ANYTHING to do with UNIX.
> >
> >       Thank you,
> >               Blackwind
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