Re: Avatar and decapitate code with graveyard

From: Contra (ContraPunk@EMAIL.MSN.COM)
Date: 08/31/98

I agree totally. I speak from my own trial and error. I myself started a MUD
a few years back and had absolutely no clue as to what i was doing, but i
had way too much pride too ask for much help anyways so i spent the few
hundred bucks too take a couple courses in C and C++(granted CircleMUD is in
C i felt a little bit of OO programming knowledge might be well worth my
time). Now I am by no means a very good coder but i like too think that i
can hold my own. Take my advice everyone out there who cant code and runs a
MUD, go and buy a couple good books on C coding and learn the basics. I know
if you can afford to put up a MUD you can sport the 30 bucks for a good

P.S. I recommend Teach Yourself C in 21 Days by SAMs Publishing and Teach
Yourself C in 24 hours also by SAMs Publishing. They both cover the extreme
basics of C and get into fairly hard stuff near the end(the former being the
hardest book but the best buy because of the software with it).
-----Original Message-----
From: Doppleganger Software <doppsoft@TZC.COM>
To: <>
Date: Sunday, August 30, 1998 3:55 PM
Subject: Re:  Avatar and decapitate code with graveyard

>>> I am looking for avatar code for my mud with decapitation ability and a
>>> grave yard where you go when you are decapitated.
>>is it just me, or is the overall quality of circlemud degradating cuz
>>no one wants to code anything themselves anymore? this newsgroup is
>>really "snippish" nowadays.
>It's not you.  And I don't think CircleMUD is degrading either.
>Personally, I think it's the quality of people who are starting up MUD's.
> Too many people who always get what they want, and who never get said no
>to are starting up MUD's with no idea what the heck they are doing.
>That's what my rant about starting up a MUD was all about....LEARN before
>you start.  You don't just see a person driving a car, decide you want to
>do it, buy a car and start driving.  No, you have to learn how to drive.
>If someone wants a full time coder, just to sit there and do whatever
>they want, they had better be prepared to pay for them, and then not
>charge anything for the MUD.  After all, they can't charge for the MUD,
>and the liscence agreement says nothing about paying for coders.  <grin>
>Should be a rule here, if you aren't willing to do the code yourself, or
>pay someone to do it, don't ask for it.  This mailing list isn't a place
>for lazy people to get their MUD built for them.  You notice he didn't
>even bother to tell us what the heck he wants in avatar code.
>Considering avatar's are, by definition, a mortal form of a god, it
>really is quite vague.
>I'm almost ready to release that fix to generic_find to actually have it
>keep the number found from one function to another, since it doesn't do
>it right now.
>"One hundred years from now, none of this will matter because you and I
>will be dead -- unless the Grim Reaper has switched his record-keeping to
>a Windows 95-based system, in which case we all might live forever. "
>-- Associated Press
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