Dear all,
I haven't contributed much in the past 6 months, my apologies. However I'm
going to join in this little discussion as I must admit I don't really think
that the current object system in Circle and many other codebases is
versatile enough.
I agree, Axiem, that the current object system does not really fit in well
with OLC. If you wanted 10 leather studded jackets, one of which was say 10
years old rather than 8 years, you'd need to add a seperate entry to the
.obj files. Otherwise, when one jacket say gets very worn, all 10 jackets
get very worn.
I've implemented an INHERIT variable to my MUD (however it's my custom code
so I can't send you a patch). When you edit an existing object, say the
studded jacket, it creates a new object in the database with the INHERIT
variable set to the vnum it held previously. Then, if you wanted to change
say how rusty it is, you'd simply wack that under the INHERIT flag.
An example (I've forgotten how database files in Circle are laid out, but
you'll get the gist):
This is what it would have looked like (notice the 'rusty' variables):
10
A studded leather jacket~
A studded leather jacket is before you, and it looks great.~
variable 8 9 0
2variable 0
rusty 1
#
11
A studded leather jacket~
A studded leather jacket is before you, and it looks great.~
variable 8 9 0
2variable 0
rusty 8
This is what mine looks like:
10
A studded leather jacket~
A studded leather jacket is before you, and it looks great.~
variable 8 9 0
2variable 0
rusty 1
#
11
inherit 10
rusty 8
#
-- end example --
The server would automatically create a new object with the inherit flag at
any time it wanted to change that object (through OLC or whatever) and that
object had more than one 'instance' in the MUD world.
Benefits are that it takes up way less room in your db files (if you want
independant objects), but at the same time it allows different objects,
which in the end helps promote roleplay (and other thnings).
Just my $0.02, been nice to write to you all,
Andrew Ritchie
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Circle Discussion List [mailto:CIRCLE@post.queensu.ca]On Behalf Of
> Axiem
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 8:08 AM
> To: CIRCLE@post.queensu.ca
> Subject: [CIRCLE] [THEORY] Structure...
>
>
> I am currently really confused about how Circle MUD keeps track of items
> and such, and then finds them with the [v]stat commands...and I think I
> have a better idea for implementation of structures, and which allows a
> much easier to deal with OLC, IMO. Object can also mean mobile in the
> following:
>
> Instead of a 'generic' object structure, there'd be two structures for
> objects. One would be used as information is being loaded from the
> actual files. It would be indexed by vnum (of course), and contain all
> essential information of the object (name, description, item values,
> etc.). This structure would have absolutely no representation in the
> MUD.
> But when an object exists in a MUD, we use a different structure. We
> keep track of this one by a different number (rnum?). Inside this
> structure would be the vnum of the model object, and then temporary
> flags. If whenever we want to reference the stats of that real object,
> then we merely look at the vnum, and read the stats of the object with
> that vnum. With OLC, then, if we wanted to change every single occurance
> of a weapon, we wouldn't..we'd just change the stats of the original
> vnum. The rnum object could have flags for enchanted, keep track of
> where it is, etc. The vnum object would just stay in memory.
>
> Similar goes for mobs. As with rooms. Have a 'base' structure per vnum,
> and then every occurance of that have a structure that points to the
> 'base' structure for universal constants.
>
> Sounds good..I'm thinking about doing it..any
> suggestions/comments/thoughts on the matter?
>
> -Axiem
> -axiem@swbell.net
>
>
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