Re: [Problem][I NEED HELP!] Adding in Races.

From: Jason Pay (
Date: 02/10/02

On Sun, 10/02/2002, PMDaniel A. Koepke followed up on:

> On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Abraham Dizon wrote:
> > I did a search for 1 hour but didn't find them:
> You wasted an hour.  Those lines do not appear in db.c in recent
> patchlevels.  You could have discovered this in far less than an hour
> using your text editor's search function or UNIX/Linux grep
> as follows:
>   % grep -n 'GET_CLASS(ch) = st->class;' db.c
>   % grep -n 'st->class = GET_CLASS(ch);' db.c
> Since neither of these produce any output, you know there are
> no matching
> lines.  Of course, the smart thing to do after that is to try various
> substrings of the line you're looking for, to find near matches:
>   % grep -n ' = st->class;' db.c
>   % grep -n 'st->class = ' db.c
>   % grep -n ' = GET_CLASS(ch);' db.c
>   2334:  st->chclass = GET_CLASS(ch);
>   % grep -n 'GET_CLASS(ch) = ' db.c
>   2216:  GET_CLASS(ch) = st->chclass;
> Note how the last two returned matches on lines 2334 and
> 2216?  Note also
> how these matches look an awful lot like the lines you were
> searching for.
> The lesson in this is that a little bit of strategy goes a
> very long way.
> > *Coding on a MUD as a newbie coder is a learning project for me*
> > *Though most people think not knowing how to code a MUD isn't a
> > learning project*
> It's not a learning project, even if you're trying to use it as one.
> It's not a learning project, even if you're successfully
> using it as one.
> It's not a learning project, period.
> That you can learn from it is irrelevant.  You can also use a pair of
> scissors for home surgery and, yet, it's still not a scalpel.
>  The answers
> to "can you...?" and "has someone...?" do not confer
> identity.  In fact,
> they're mostly useless questions.  Lots of things are
> possible (on some
> strictly metaphysical level, everything is possible), but
> much fewer are
> likely.  Lots of people have done things, but much fewer
> should have done
> them.
> You should not use a MUD for a learning project.  It is a convuluted,
> horrible beast of several thousand lines.  It is modular, but
> in a twisted
> fashion.  It is bound together by years of designed,
> redesigned, evolved,
> and hacked together code.  A MUD is a chair held together by
> everything
> from Elmer's glue to duct tape to nails -- you shouldn't use
> such a thing
> to learn how to make furniture; you shouldn't be surprised if
> such a thing
> collapses under your weight.  Most importantly, you shouldn't expect
> people to jump to your aid every time it collapses beneath you.
> You've been warned, now, so good luck in your endeavor...
> -dak

Hi, Ive read nearly all of hero's mails to this list, and it appears
that he has progressed alot in the past 3 months. Granted, he has asked
a few questions about problems which he should have been able to work
out by himself, BUT atleast he has perseveared in spite of all the
shit he gets from ppl on here, I find it rather puzzling that ppl spend
so much time flaming rather than just answering bloody the question!

So what if he is using circle as a learning project, Its not your problem,
Its not as if you have to fix it, you dont even have to reply to it!


Regards all,

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