Re: dumb coding ??

From: Mud Administration (mudadmin@UNIX.AARDVARKOL.COM)
Date: 10/30/97

Everyone has to start somewhere!!!  I started with Rexx, and then picked
up a C source (Circle MUD) on my amiga and started playing (Knowing I
couldnt directly screw up my system by making cosmetic changes!) Then I
went to a Linux system and I've coded some great pieces of Work...  As
soon as I get some time I plan on posting an OnLine configurations code
that I made myself...  And Later I will see about uploading some others
that I made.....


 Mud Administraton at "Tower of the Lost Order MUD"
     (telnet:// 6000)

On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Rich Chiavaroli wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Oct 1997, John Evans wrote:
> < *snip* discussion about circle as a learing tool>
> Well I have to admit that I fall into the catagory of people who decided
> to learn C because they wanted to work on a MUD. I'd say that I'm still
> pretty green as far as C goes but I think there is 2 different classes of
> people who don't know C who decide it's a good idea to start a MUD.
> 1) the person who just thinks having a MUD would be cool so they download
> it, figure out that it's pretty vanila and want someone to tell them
> exactly waht to do to make it better.
> 2) The person (me) who downloaded the code, looked through it, figured out
> that he/she didn't have a prayer of learning C from looking at the code
> and went out and bought a couple books and read them. Then went back to
> the code and spent 2 weeks looking through all the source to try to get a
> little understanding of how things work.
> I guess what I'm trying to say is that I agree with John that anyone who
> attempts to start a MUD should take the time to a) learn at least basic
> ANSI C and b) get a good feel for what gets done where in the code. I'm
> by no means an expert but I've taught myself enough to either be able to
> do what I want or know where I can find pieces of code that are similar
> so I can look at them and figure it out. It does help that I have
> programming expierence in other languages but VB is a far cry from C. And
> the college Pascal and  Modula II arn't good for more than knowing good
> structure. It took me forever to get out of the habit of typing ':=' and
> remembering to use '==' for compairsons. An "if (x = y)" error is evil to
> find when you're just learing :).
> If someone takes the time to learn the basics before they try to actually
> add code they would be 100 times better off. Some people don't want to
> take that time though. I think it's that group that the people on
> this list get frustrated with.
> Rich
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