On Mon, 18 May 1998, Evz wrote:
->This, my friend, is garbage.
->You do not have to be a "veteran programmer", I agree that
->some form of programming experience definitely comes in
->very useful, but providing one has a tidy C book and the right
->kind of mind, then it's possible without any experience.
He didn't say you _have_ to be a "veteran" programmer to run a MUD.
He said you should _or_ if you don't, then ...
->>keep your mouth shut and don't waist everyone's time with stupid
->>questions.
->
->But you cannot sit there and tell everyone to "shut it with the
->stupid questions" when some of the newbs may have some valid ideas,
->and problems that aren't your standard, oops, I forgot a brace type
->problems.
Which has absolutely no bearing on what he said. No-one is replying
to intelligent questions with "RTFC". It wouldn't even make sense to
reply to a legitimate question with RTFx. However, questions that can
be easily answered _do_ and _should_ get the RTFx.
->And btw I think you will find the literate proportion of the
->community on this list like to use "waste" in the above
->context.
And, btw, I think you will find the literate _portion_ of the
community on this list not to _waste_ their time with idiotic spelling
flames -- especially since the majority of said flames have spelling,
vocabulary, and/or grammar errors, such as your own.
->Dude, it's such a closed mind attitude!!!
No, it's a legitimate and purposeful statement. No-one is going to
_stop_ a newbie coder from attempting a MUD. But the warnings will
certainly discourage the wise newbies that know their limitations.
->I came to Circle coding, cold, not knowing one thing about C
->programming, but I did it because I wanted to set up my own
->MUD.
Good for you! No-one is saying you _can't_ do this. You're one of
the rare few who are capable of learning this way. Now go pat
yourself on the back and stop figuring just because _you_ can, anyone
can. All men were _not_ created equal.
->I've been teaching myself, and I am *learning* (gosh!) new things
->all the time. I am also coping quite adaquately and have never had
->to post to this group with the "waaaaah, this doesn't work and I
->don't know why" kinda questions that the current newbs are posting
->on a regular basis.
What do you want, a cookie? You're supposed to learn things on your
own and you're not supposed to whine!
->In short, Circle is different for everyone, and while it may not be
->recommended to code a MUD with no previous experience, it shouldn't
->just be written off with "it is NOT a programming learning
->experience".
It isn't. "Hello, world," is a programming learning experience. What
is so hard to see about this? Since when is a massive chunk of code a
learning tool when you can't understand a little chunk of code?!
->Nuff said.
I beg to differ. Too much said -- and no points made.
-dak : I can't see me replying to anything else in this thread ...
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