Re: [SYSTEM-WIN95][NEWBIE] worldbuilders

From: Ghost Shaidan (
Date: 02/17/99

> To help with immortals cheating you could do a few things.
> 1.  Don't just advance someone to builder status.  We have a rule
>      on Zombie that you have to become an immortal by making it
>      to level 100, then you have to ask to become an immortal.  Then
>      if you do get accepted (voted into by the imm staff), you lose that
>      level 100 character and all equipment assoc. w/ that character.
>     A.  the person is more likely to be loyal because they've been on
>           the mud a longer time and,
>     B.  They will know the mud, thus making the person a better builder.

Agreed, and agreed.  I don't make them go all the way to 201, it takes a
while by design, but we do make sure they have played for 75-100 levels
it depends on their experience, imagination, and maturity level also.

> 2.  Set up formulas that will make mobs have specific exp for their level or
> a
>       range of exp for their level (in olc).   This works for hps, ac,
> hitroll, damroll
>       etc...People might argue that it limits builders' imagination, but
> with ranges
>       for each stat, it keeps the game balanced.

Another good idea, and I have our formula (which stat is worth what)
pretty well hammered out, still figuring out spec procs and mob progs, and
trying to fit them into the mix, but our head coder is pretty adamante
about fixing the crash bug we think is in obuild before we add anything
this complex to it.

> 3.  Log all olc commands for each immortal and log immortal wiz commands.
>      A pain in the butt, but if you tell the imms that it's being done, the
> likely hood of cheating is reduced.

We log all OLC commands, immortal spell usage, deaths, attacks (from
player to player, and imm to anyone), thefts, immort commands, and a few
other things.  It has definately helped us catch some unscrupulous people,
both mortal and immortal, in the past. We even have some fairly simple
code that will log all commands typed in to a log file based on a
character.  Useful for catching mortal harrassment in the middle of the

> The bottom line is, whatever works for you....

Agreed, and sometimes hearing what works for other people is a good way to
figure out what to try to see if it works for you :)


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