Re: [Circle] [OFFTOPIC] Opinions about future releases for Circle.

From: David J Kasprzyk (
Date: 11/25/96

DJ Pure wrote:
> G'Day all,
>           I was just thinking about some stuff after reading lots of posts over
> the last few weeks.
> I think it's REALLY GOOD how Jeremy doesn't put races and other stuff in
> the stock code. I've been spending hours (nearly a a few days) trying to
> debug something really simple. Now i know it's prolly just a few lines, but
> I've figured SO much out about the code now. I'm still a bad coder, but I
> now have a more clearer understanding of the code, so now that I want to
> add / modify different things, I can feal more confident with what and
> where I'm going to do those things.
> So I reakon the in future, the future releases of the circle code should
> have some really important things missing (like races and classes like the
> current stock versions) so newbie coders (like me) can get a good feel of
> the code AND good C practice. Of course, documentation is very very
> helpful, (which is there now) but i think little things like that help us
> in the long run. It's too ofter I read people asking (basically) ... "Give
> me your code please" or at least something along those lines. In the end,
> those people who ask for answers without understanding HOW, WHERE and WHY
> loose out ... becuase one day, they will be alone...

I would have to agree to a point. I think you have to leave the classes
in, because in my case seeing some real WORKING code was a big help. The
races.doc had just enough wrong with it to make me pay attention to what
the code was doing rather than just typing it in and recompiling. The
'Gimme your code' thing will always be part of this list, it is just
human nature to be lazy. Patches are only good for one maybe two mods
because, as I am learning, the code really starts taking on a life of
its own after a few mods. You learn more about the code and coding maybe
you even go back and change things into cleaner code that you had hacked
before as you learn better ways to do things. I have to say that what
there is of the documentation is good and has helped me I just wish they
were more complete, buy HEY what do you want for free.

  David J Kasprzyk        
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